How-to Author Interview: D. P. Lyle, MD

D. P. Lyle, MD is the Macavity Award winning and Edgar Award nominated author of the nonfiction books,  Murder and Mayhem, Forensics for Dummies, Forensics and Fiction, and Howdunnit: Forensics:  A Guide for Writers,  as well as thrillers, Devil's Playground, and Double Blind.

His next medical thriller, Stress Fracture, will  be released in early 2010.

He has worked with many novelists and with the writers of popular TV shows such as Law & Order, CSI: Miami, Diagnosis Murder, Monk, Judging Amy, Peacemakers, Cold Case, House, Medium, Women's Murder Club, and 1-800-Missing.

He is a practicing Cardiologist in Orange County, California.

Through his website, The Writers' Medical and Forensics Lab (www.dplylemd.com) he works with writers and readers to enrich their understanding of complex medical and forensic issues in the stories they write and read.

  A Big Welcome to D.P. Lyle!  

Doug Lyle impressed me at Thrillerfest two years ago.  I was new to ITW, and Doug took time to sit and chat with me and answer my questions.  A charter member of International Thriller Writers, Doug is active in ITW and is their CraftFest Chair. 

I appreciate Doug Lyle for being our featured guest today.  He will respond to comments and questions today after 3:00PM Mountain Time - until 8:00PM Mountain Time. 

Anyone who posts a comment or question today (August 26th) may win FORENSICS:  A Guide For Writers, or a Lecture Packet from me.  I'll draw the two winning names at 8:30PM Mountain Time.

Here's what experts have to say about Doug Lyle's how-to books:

"A terrific resource for crime writers and anyone interested in forensics . . . will jump-start your imagination about all kinds of ingenious crimes, crime-solving techniques, and plot twists."  Matt Witten, supervising producer of the Fox TV show, House.

"Every crime-fiction author's best friend . . . as essential to my library as my Strunk and White."  -- Hallie Ephron, author of Writing and Selling Your Mystery Novel.

"There's damn good reason why Dr. Doug Lyle's e-mail is in every crime writer's address book and why his reference books belong on every aspiring writer's book shelf:  His advice comes from the head of a medical expert but also from the heart and imagination of a writer.  Whenever I paint myself into a forensic corner, Dr. Doug is always there to rescue me."  -- P. J. Parrish, author of An Unquiet Grave

THE INTERVIEW:

ML:   Your forensics books for writers are full of CSI-type information, only your info is correct.  :-)  Please tell our blog guests about some of the topics you cover in Howdunnit: Forensics:  A Guide for Writers.

DL:  My plan all along was to write the definitive book on forensics for writers.  I wanted to cover each and every subject. When I did Forensics for Dummies I was able to cover many of the subjects, just not in the detail I wanted. And they did not want any historical information but rather only current information on forensics. This book has a great deal of historical information about things such as how forensic toxicology or fire arms examination or fingerprinting came to be.  I find this material fascinating and I know that many writers tell stories that are not set in the present day and indeed can be back to prehistoric times or even just fifty years ago.  They need to know what the state of the art was at that time in order to make their stories real and believable and I believe that this book gives them much of the information they will need.

Things covered in this book are DNA, blood analysis including blood spatter, fingerprint and shoe print patterns toxicology, psychiatry, document examination, forensic chemistry and biology, and a host of other topics.

ML:  Do you know of instances where the killer deliberately attempted to disguise the actual time of death?  What was the outcome?

DL:  Actually, there have been many cases where this has occured.  One of the most clever involved freezing the body and then dumping it months later. Freezing would slow the decay process making it very difficult for the medical examiner to determine the time of death.  He can tell by looking at the tissues under the microscope that they have been frozen suddenly because the ice crystals that form within the cells at the time of the freezing fractures the cells and this is visible.   But if the body is frozen for a few months and then is dumped in a rural area and then not found until severely decayed then this microscopic evidence may not be present, it can be very difficult for the medical examiner to determine that the body has been frozen.  After the first 48 hours then things such as temperature, lividity pattern,  and rigor mortis are of no use.   Here the medical examiner relies on insect activity and degree of decay to give him the best guess as to the approximate time of death.  Freezing the body for a time alters this time line and makes it very difficult.

ML:  Could you describe a situation where forensic evidence (such as decay cycle of sperm) proved an alleged rape victim was lying.

DL:  That's a difficult one because the term rape is not in the medical vocabulary.  The medical examiner will not use that term in his evaluation or in his autopsy report.  He can only say that penetration occurred and that semen was found and that therefore sexual intercourse took place.  Whether this was consensual or not is determined by a judge and jury.

There was an extremely interesting case involving semen analysis a couple of years ago.  A man was convicted of rape on DNA evidence from semen collected from the victim.  He denied that he did it but the DNA evidence sealed the deal for him. Then another young lady came forward saying that she had been raped.  When the DNA analysis was done, it matched the DNA of the previous victim and matched the DNA of the incarcerated felon. 

How could this be?

He argued that someone else had the same DNA as him and that it must be the case since he was incarcerated at the time of the second rape.

It turns out that the second victim was not raped.  She was a friend of a friend of the felon.  He had smuggled his own semen out of prison through his friend.  To accomplish this, he deposited his semen in one of those tear-open ketchup packs.  The alleged victim then used this to stage her own rape.  I get the feeling this guy could have been quite successful had he chosen another path because he is defnitely quite clever.

ML:  Is there political pressure placed on forensic investigatiors to push investigations in one direction or another?  Could you describe some examples?

I'm sure this happens all the time and with lab results making the recent news (thereby swaying cases) there's probably a great deal of this that goes on behind the scenes.  This is one of the current pushes in the forensic world to standardize the tests and to clean up the credentials of those who perform them.  Since forensic sciences is such a new field, it is going through its growing pains right now and it has not all been hammered out yet.  Add to this the fact that according to the Daubert Decision, which allows the trier of fact -- the judge -- to decide what evidence enters his courtroom, you can see how the stage is set for all types of shenanigans.  What this rule allows is for the judge, and the judge alone, to decide whether a scientific test is credible and if it is allowable in the courtroom. It is interesting that the judge is one of the least qualified people to make this decision, but the judge has the absolute power in this regard. If the judge wants to admit the testimony of a crackpot they can. If they want to block the testimony of a well respected scientist, they can do that too.

The crime lab is typically in constant communication with the investigating officers and the district attorney. This is simply because much of the testing will help guide their investigation and it saves a lot of time and energy and money.  So far so good. But a smart and aggressive investigator or district attorney can pressure the lab to say things that may not be entirely true.  They can color their report slightly to help them obtain a search warrant or to lead them toward one suspect versus another. We would like to think this does not happen very often and indeed it probably doesn't.  But the potential for abuse of the system was there.

ML:  In recent years we've seen increasing use of DNA evidence to solve crimes.  How do you feel future DNA technology can expand the science of solving crimes?

 One area is that DNA is being found in smaller and smaller samples. Right now a single cell is all that is necessary to produce usable DNA and therefore a match.  This means that large samples are not necessary and a felon can leave behind his DNA without realizing it.  Not just blood and semen, but on the lip of a cup or a postage stamp, and more recently even on a fingerprint.  When you think about it, fingerprints are basically skin oils and cells that are deposited by touch, the cells within the print contain DNA and this can be used to create a profile.

 A more problematic development is the recent research that came from Israel where scientists were able to manufacture someone's genetic profile in the lab.  They actually incorporated this into various body fluids after removing all the DNA from that fluid.  If you remove the donor's DNA and add artificially produced DNA then you have basically altered the sample to the point that he would give the wrong answer.  They actually gave samples to various labs and had them test for DNA and none of them realized what had been done.  Now this is not the kind of thing that your average criminal can do at his kitchen table or in his garage.  But the potential for making fake DNA and leaving the wrong person's DNA at the scene is real.  Where this will lead, I have no idea. But it is very troubling.  

ML:  You also published another handy reference for suspense writers, Forensics and Fiction:  Clever, Ingenious, and Downright Odd Questions from Crime Writers.  Love the title, love the book!

You share everything from what is included in an autopsy report and why -- to whacky and whackier questions posed by writers.  Here's a sample:

 

---Can botox be used as a weapon for murder?

 

---Could a recent blood transfusion confuse DNA analysis?

 

---Can an injection of potassium kill a hospitalized patient quickly?

 

---Can a death-row inmate be saved after receiving a lethal injection?


---How long can a balloon with heroin remain intact within a 'mule's' stomach?


Please share one of your favorite questions and answers from Forensics and Fiction.

 

 DL:  When talking about my question-and-answer books, I always point out that I'm not responsible for the questions, only the answers.  The questions are amazing and truly point out how the creative mind works.  I am always fascinated by how people create their stories and the questions I get asked for a peek into that world.

The questions you listed above are examples of that.  Other questions in the book deal with how crucifixion causes death, do zombies leave behind forensic evidence, does a corpse decay on Mars, would Abraham Lincoln have survived with modern medical care, was DNA available in the early 1990's, can mercury be found in a murder victim's hair a year after death, and many others.  The answers are asphyxia and shock, zombies have fingerprints and blood and hair and fibers, Mars is too cold for decay to occur, Honest Abe would have easily survived today (so would Princess Diana had she been in the U.S.), DNA fingerprinting was discovered in 1984 and first entered the courtroom in the U.S. in 1987, and mercury can be found in hair even hundreds of years later.

 ML:  The last section in Forensics and Fiction is named:  Odds and Ends--Mostly Odds.  Want to treat our blog guests to something odd?

 DL: One of my favorite questions was included in the same section of my first question-and-answer book, Murder and Mayhem.  In this scenario a teenage girl lived next door to another couple.  The female neighbor was having an affair with the teen's father and she wanted to do something to get even.  The questioner asked if there was something she could do to the woman's diaphragm that would cause her some discomfort or concern.  Being a Southerner, there was only one answer -- Tabasco.  Think about it. 

ML:  Congratulations on Stress Fracture, to be released in April, 2010.  I want to know more.  What's the scoop on your upcoming thriller?

 

 DL:  This book is the first in a new series starring Dub Walker, an evidence and criminal behavior expert.  He has written many books on these subjects, lectures on them frequently, and consults on unusual cases.  In Stress Fracture, he is asked to help track down an over-the-top brutal killer who seems to have no real motive and no filter as far as victim selection.  He does not follow any of the usualy behavior patterns and from a forensic psychiatric point of view, seems to be both organized and disorganized, careful and impulsive, at the same time. 

 

 The second book in the series, Hot Lights, Cold Steel, deals with robotic surgery and some nefarious characters.  It is completed and sold and is undergoing the editorial processes right now.  

 

 The third in the series, Run to Ground, is under way and I'm nearing completion of the first draft.  it deals with a couple who change their identity and drop off the radar completely.  Suspected of murder, Dub must find a way to track them down and then prove their guilt or innocence.

 

ML:  Please fill us in about The Writers Medical and Forensics Lab.  I bet they'll want to check it out.  

 

DL:  My website began as a place where writers could come to get medical and forensic information and ask questions about their works in progress.  It has not changed since its inception.  I still have articles on there including things like the perfect murder, the untraceable poison, how the medical examiner determines the time of death, and a historical forensic timeline.  There is also a link so that writers can send me questions about their stories.

 

I have now added a blog which I call The Writers Forensics Blog where I talk about current cases and news stories and attempt to explain the medical and forensic issues behind them. There is a link to my blog on my website and I hope some of your readers will visit.

 

 ML:  Thank you for taking the time to provide such thorough responses to my questions.  I appreciate your time and your expertise!

 

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# Kathy 2009-08-26 06:15
;-)) Hello Margie, I was out surfing and found you nice little blog. I hope you are doing good and well. I'm sorry about your cousin. I'm trying to focus on writing as well as dealing with my husband's health issues. He's in a real mess but he is optimistic about all of the things going on with him. He's blind now in his left eye, has cancer-but not sure what type he forgot what the doctor told him over the phone. Just that his arety disease prevents chemo for now but it is a slow growing cancer. So my hoped fo rmeeting inprson with you in November fell by the way side but maybe in 2010 :-)
I found this article fascinating because we had a real forensics man speak at a recent RWA meeting. He had a power point presentation of an actual crime committed in Smith County Texas. He said shows like CSI are making smarter criminals in some instances. That was mentioned above with the freezing of the body. I will have to locate a copy of Doug's book to have for research. Thanks for the interview and great information. :-)
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# Walt 2009-08-26 11:15
I just wanted to thank the doctor for answering my question the other day about whether a victim's eyes might roll back in the head during a manual strangulation. I wasn't quite sure how to post my thanks without gumming up his question system. I have a couple of his books scheduled for purchase next month.
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# Debbie Kaufman 2009-08-26 11:21
Hi Margie and Doug! Great interview. Probably going to be late to run carpool over this one, LOL.

Here's my question for Doug. Is there a database that M.Es use that can be accessed by law enforcement when searching for serial killers? I mean, how do they play connect the dots when a killer has traveled and killed in multiple areas? How would an M.E., or whoever. decide to enter a particular death in the database.
Thanks, I'll check out the blog. I'm just past the middle of my first suspense with a serial killer.
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 16:09
VICAP--the Violent Crime apprehension Program--is the main repository of data on violent crime. It is run by the FBI. Any law enforcement agency that subscribes to it can upload info about violent crimes and compare crimes with similar ones nationwide. This helps with tracking mobile serial predators of all types. Google VICAP and you'll see how it works.
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# Emma 2009-08-26 11:22
Yay, I'm always looking for a good forensics book to read. Thanks for the info.
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# Suzanne Adair 2009-08-26 12:44
Hi Doug! Now that we can fake DNA test results, what will it take to fake paternity test results?
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 16:13
Since paternity testing require DNA from the father, the mother and the child--two our three won't work---the DNA of both parents would need to be faked in manner that would match the child's. And Paternity testing is a little different from the standard STR DNA fingerprint so it would be even more difficult to accomplish. Probably possible but not easy.
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# Edie 2009-08-26 12:59
This was fascinating! Great interview! I've recently become a fan of BONES on TV. I don't know if you watch it, but a lot of what they do seems to be really expensive, beyond what most crime labs can afford. I understand that most states have a backlog of forensic work, especially DNA. How do you feel about this?

And I'm definitely buying your book when it comes out!
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 16:16
You are correct. The budgets for most crime labs and police departments are slim at best and this means less equipment and lab workers and backlogs. Jan Burke's Crime Lab Project addresses this exact issue by increasing public awareness of this problem. There is a link to it on the main page of my website. Check it out ad sign up for Jan's periodic bulletins on all things forensic.
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# Peg 2009-08-26 13:06
Okay, I have a question regarding my current wip. My victim dies from anaphylactic shock due to a peanut allergy and crashes her car into a tree. She is taken by ambulance to the hospital where she is DOA. Would the doctor examining her be able to guess at the cause of death (everyone else is assuming she had a heart attack) or would it take an autopsy to reveal that her allergy killed her.
Thanks so much!
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 16:19
This is a very difficult thing to determine at autopsy. If the ME saw redness and mucous formation in the throat and airways he might think of an allergic reaction. Problem is that a lot of this and much of the skin swelling and rash disappears at death. Not always but sometimes. So if he saw a residual rash and airway swelling and redness he might make the diagnosis. If not, then maybe not.
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# Carrie 2009-08-26 13:15
Doug (and Margie),

Thanks fo the fascinating interview.

My WIP is historical. Does your book include any information about arsenic?
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 16:21
Yes. Howdunnit covers the history of many forensic techniques and the development of arsenic testing is thoroughly discussed. In fact this essentially began the field of forensic toxicology.
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# Cathy 2009-08-26 13:30
Hi Doug -
I have a WIP where there is a fire in an industrial building. A body is discovered there the next morning. I'm assuming there would automatically be an autopsy, and also would there be anything about the appearance of the body that could tell the police and fire marshal that the victim had been dead before the fire even started, or would they have to wait for the results to know that? (There are no obvious bullet holes or anything like that).
Thank you!
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 17:32
The two thing that would point to the victim being alive and breathing while the fire burned would be soot in the lungs and a high Carbon Monoxide (CO) level in the blood. If no soot and a low CO level then the victim was likely dead before the fire started. There is an entire chapter on arson investigation in two of my books--Howdunnit: Forensics and Forensics For Dummies--if you want to know more
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# Diana Cosby 2009-08-26 13:30
Margie and Doug, fabuous interview. I'll definitely check out your books when I gear up to my contemporary romantic suspense series as well as your website. I sincerely appreciate your time.

Diana
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# Jamie S Hill 2009-08-26 14:05
Doug-

We writers are always thankful when experts share details and stories from their profession which makes our stories more authentic and rich; so thank you for sharing. I'm looking forward to finding your books and adding them to my library. Any book Margie recommends is a keeper.

Here's my question: Do fatal gun shots go to autopsy if there is question of suicide? For example, a gun shot to the abdominal area while cleaning a gun. Or do they already know the cause of death and have no need to autopsy? I wonder if on shows like NCIS if they autopsy more than in real life because it makes good television.

Jamie S Hill
www.jamieshill.com
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 17:36
It is up to the ME. He needs to sign the death certificate and must include cause and manner of death. If he needs an autopsy to determine these things he will do one and if not he won't. And if he is lazy, corrupt, incompetent, or has no money in the budget for it then he just might skip it anyway. Unless there is an order from the court to the contrary it is at his sole discretion.
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# Tamara Hughes 2009-08-26 14:24
Great interview! Very interesting.

I have a question about asthma. In my book, a woman returns home to find her finance lying on their bedroom floor barely breathing and turning purple. She tries CPR but it doesn't work.

My initial thought was that he had a severe asthma attack, but my critique partner (who has pretty bad asthma) said his attack wouldn't come on that suddenly, that he'd have time to get to the emergency room.

I've since changed his cause of death to anaphylactic shock, but I still wish it were asthma because it would be a weirder death - he's a runner who competes in marathons.

What do you think? Could it have been asthma or should I leave it as an allergy?

Thanks!
Tami
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 17:53
Actually, either could work. And yes an asthmatic attack can be very sudden and deadly. That's why asthmatics carry inhalers to reverse the process immediately before they spiral into serious trouble and this can take as little a 3-5 minutes in severe asthmatics. Sometimes these are triggered by exposure to an allergen such as cat hair or dust or certain pollens. Anaphylaxis is a severe allergic reaction and asthmatic constriction of the airways is often a part of an anaphylactic reaction. So you can use either.
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# Darlene 2009-08-26 14:26
Great interview.

My question is about head injuries. My character has fallen and hit his head. I know bleeding in the brain can cause death several hours after a head injury. How long could my character still seem reasonably well and would he realize something was seriously wrong?

Thanks!
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 17:56
After a head injury any bleeding within or around the brain can be delayed minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months. Anything is possible. The victim might feel and appear perfectly normal between the injury and the bleed. In the case of Natasha Rishardson the delay was a couple of hours and this is very common in these types of bleeds.
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# Diana 2009-08-26 14:28
The Daubert Decision is frightening! I had no idea that existed and now my brain is whirling with possible story ideas. Thanks!


Margie! Love the new blog!
Diana
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# Cindy Carroll 2009-08-26 14:35
Awesome interview. Now I have a few more books I need to get.
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# Donnell 2009-08-26 14:52
Dr. Lyle: (and Margie) Great interview. Your generosity to writers is much appreciated. I'm curious if you and Tess Gerritson ever sat down and compared notes. Can you imagine the ingenious mysteries you two could come up with. Something to consider, perhaps ;-)
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# Guest 2009-08-26 14:52
Hi Doug--

I have your book and I LOVE it. I highly recommend it to everyone I come across. It's so comprehensive and accessible. So glad I picked up a copy.

I'm looking forward to trying your foray into fiction. And thanks for doing the interview for my fans this month. My local chapter is going to have you come speak. They were thrilled with the recommendation (I told them how interesting you are--I heard you speak in SF).

Thanks for all you do!

Brenda Novak
THE PERFECT LIAR, On Sale NOW!
www.brendanovak.com
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 17:57
And I enjoyed doing the interview and look forward to speaking to your group.
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# Kit Donner 2009-08-26 15:06
Hi Doug and Maggie,
Fascinating stuff!

In my current WIP, one of the characters is stabbed 3 times on 3 separate occasions. The last time will kill him. Where can he be stabbed in the upper torso twice and be considered serious where he'll need time to heal but not prove fatal.

Thanks a bunch!

Kit Donner
www.kitdonner.com
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 18:14
Go with flesh wounds for the first two--avoid the heart, lungs, and major blood vessels. Then the fatal one can damage the heart and/or lungs.
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# Barry 2009-08-26 15:37
Now I know where the "realism" comes from in the shows I watch, and I'll be buying your books to apply that realism to my own writing.

Thanks for sharing! And, thanks to Margie for bringing you to my computer!

Cheers,
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# JoAnn Swearingen 2009-08-26 15:45
It's been a while since I attended a Scene of the Crime conference with out local writing group, so I appreciate learning about Dr. Lyle's book Howdunnit: Forensics, A Guide for Writers.
Sounds like an excellent resource for writers of mysteries, suspense, and thrillers.
JoAnn
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# Tia G. Larson 2009-08-26 15:47
Hi there! I've been riding in the back seat of a handful of Margies classes, excited that she's starting a blog -

-----and now even more thrilled that she is connecting me to new resources such as yourself! I too have seen some of the CSI cases that you mention and those were the episodes I really got hooked into!

Wowee, just imagine how us writers can do with those little details. Thank you thank you Margie for bringing us this gem today!
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# Vickie 2009-08-26 16:01
Great interview. Can't wait to buy the new book.
I'm curious, since forensics is relatively new, are standards set on how much effort is allotted to various cases? I'd hope one would spend more resources on a murder case than a burglary, but after the Daubert Decision who knows. Thank you.
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 18:20
High profile cases get the money, others take what's left. Contrary to CSI and popular opinion DNA is used in less than 1% of cases. No money to do DNA and expensive tox testing on most cases.
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# Joann Breslin 2009-08-26 16:09
:D

Dear Doug and Margie,

Thanks so much, that was a fascinating blog and I'm going to check out your books Doug.

Joann
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# Joann Breslin 2009-08-26 16:10
Dear Doug and Margie,

Thank you so much. That was a very interesting blog.

I have to check out all your books, Dough.

Joann
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# Marcia James 2009-08-26 16:42
I thoroughly enjoyed the interview! I write comic romantic mysteries, so I can't help but see the humorous possibilities in some of your serious examples. :idea: Thanks!

-- Marcia James :D
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# Michele Lee 2009-08-26 16:44
Hi Doug! I just wanted to say great interview! I'll be picking up your book ASAP. I write paranormal police/forensic procedurals but I think it's important to get the science right so that when I start musing on the forensics of vampires, werewolves and more it sounds just as solid.

I want to ask, do you think such open knowledge of forensics and police procedures is/has led to smarter criminals trying to use the science against the police or manipulate it to get away with it?
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 18:24
Yes and no. Criminal do learn so that they wear gloves and condoms so they won't leave evidence behind. Then they do something stupid like drinking a beer at the scene and leaving behind the bottle---with their DNA on the lip. a cops best friend is that most criminals are not PhDs. Also the public and esp. juries expect DNA in every case. How many times did you hear where is the DNA in the Scott Peterson case? DNA had nothing to do with his crime and even if Laci's DNA was found so what? They lived together. Still everyone wanted DNA before he was convicted. Fortunately the jury got it right.
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# Julie Robinson 2009-08-26 17:22
What a weasel! But very clever with trying to show that he must not have raped the first victim. I know as a rape crisis counselor that hospital advocates follow a certain protocol with the police to ensure non-contamination of evidence.

If a judge can rule out evidence in a case, then could a judge rule out DNA evidence maybe based on a deal with a high-profile defendant?
It seems like dismissing scientific evidence would give the judge a bad reputation, but I guess it could be warranted in the future, especially if DNA is replicated and placed at a scene. Scary!

I do not have your Forensics Guide for Writers book, but have it on my wish list after eyeing it many a time in the store. I can see why you have one for writers because of the 'odd' questions we ask. My DH claims to be very afraid!!

Doug, you have a wealth of information on your site. I was really interested in the blog post you had recently on forensic graphology, which led me, in turn, to your guest's site, who also has an informative site. It has been a very good learning day! :ooo:

Congrats on your upcoming release. I see I shall have to add Stress Factor to my future wish list; even your fiction books sound like an education in themselves on forensics!

Thanks, Margie, for introducing Doug.

Julie
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 18:25
That's the stuff of fiction--and real life unfortunately. A corrupt judge can alter a case anyway he wants.
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# Kathy 2009-08-26 17:24
I wrote of my heroine in a historical being strangled not enough to kill it's a warning of what could happen if she stays the path. She has reasons for hiding the bruising would htis be possible by wearing a high necked dress? :idea:
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 18:27
Yes. The bruises in strangulation--absent any other injuries--can easily be covered by a high-necked dress or blouse or a scarf or coat collar.
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# rose mccauley 2009-08-26 17:53
Dear Dr. Lyle, your books sound too scary for me--I'm a member of Brandilyn Collins' Big Honkin' Chickens Club--but it sounds like something my hubby would love. Are any of your books on audio CD? He "reads' most of his book on the CD player in his tractor while baling hay! thanks! and thanks to margie for her great blogs and guest bloggers!
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 19:06
No but I have a series of forensic lectures on DVD. They can be found on my website along with how to order them if you want.
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# Kathy 2009-08-26 17:58
Ty Margie and Doug for the great interview lots of interesting information being passed along. :-)
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# Kim 2009-08-26 18:17
Margie, I'm loving the lecture packets I bought. A fellow ACFW member pointed out that you have this great blog site, too. Fascinating info. I just subscribed. :-)
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# Rita 2009-08-26 18:44
Tabasco. that's the hottest!
thanks for this great Q&A.
It seems my TBR stack will soon grow.
Doug, working with TV writers have they ever blatantly ignored what you suggest and gone off some crazy way? I've seen some pretty stange stuff presented on TV.
Rita
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 19:07
Not often and I'll never say who.
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# Rita 2009-08-26 19:29
Okay LOL
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# Connie Marquise 2009-08-26 18:46
Margie and Doug: This is all tremendously helpful. Thanks for the time you put into this.

Connie
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# Cara Putman 2009-08-26 18:48
What a great interview filled with info I can use. THanks!
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# Beth C. 2009-08-26 20:32
Wow. Great info. I foresee more government conspiracy stories with the DNA substitution theme in them. Good luck with your release when it comes out.
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# Tracy Mastaler 2009-08-26 20:33
Hi Doug and Mar-G,

Thanks for the interview. I love reading quirky, crimey things that get the creative synapses firing!

Doug, I have two of your books, Murder and Mayhem and Forensics for Dummies. I must be the latter because there are literally dozens of colorful sticky notes tabbing like a rainbow out of the Dummies book! Thanks for all of your expertise, from the basic to the bizarre.

Here is my question: How quickly could a big-city (Washington D.C.) M.E.'s office produce a rushed toxicology report?

Mar-G, great interview and blog post. Keep 'em coming! :D

Tra-C
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# DP Lyle, MD 2009-08-26 21:39
They can do a screen, which looks for classes of drugs such as amphetamines or narcotics, in 24 hours, but to then identify a particular drug--such as heroin or crystal meth--might take a couple of days or longer. The reason most testing takes so long is that you the ME will send the samples to another lab for confirmation. This is particularly true is high profile cases such as Michael Jackson. The ME wants confirmation before he submits his report. And all this assumes the lab isn't swamped and backlogged and that they have the budget to do it in the first place.
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# Tracy Mastaler 2009-08-27 00:31
Thanks, Doug, for answering my question. The best part...you gave me the answer I was hoping for and I don't have to do a creative revision of my work in progress! Lucky me!

Tracy :D
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# Julie Particka-Klumb 2009-08-26 20:45
This was a fabulous interview. I definitely plan on checking out Dr. Lyle's books.

Thanks for the info :D
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# Gail 2009-08-26 21:21
Wow! So much fascinating information in one place. It makes me want to start writing mysteries. Wonderful blog!
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# Sue 2009-08-26 21:23
Awesome interview. I write contemporary but there is ton's of information and ideas that can come out of your information.

Thanks so much for sharing and I'll be sure to check out your blog.
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# Melinda 2009-08-26 22:16
Just wanted to say how proud I am of my big brother!!!
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# Barbara White Daille 2009-08-26 22:28
Thanks so much for all the fascinating facts. I'll definitely check out your book, blog, and Web site.

And thanks to Margie for inviting you to blog here.
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# Barbara 2009-08-26 23:21
Thank you for a great interview.
Given the new wave of DNA testing in genealogy how reliable are the results? In your opinion can these records take the place of source documents in connecting modern day man to ancient civilizations?
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# Margie 2009-08-26 23:23
Hello Everyone!

WOW! You all have been having forensics fun while I was at work today. Wish I could have been here. ;-)

KUDOS to Doug for sharing his expertise, his time, and his wit. Loved all the questions and cool answers.

I believe Doug will drop by the blog again this evening. Thanks Doug!

I'm heading to Jeanne Stein's booksigning now -- and will not be able to post the winners until 9:30PM Mountain Time.

Thanks to everyone for dropping by and posting. See you on-line!

All smiles..................Margie
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# Heidi Howard 2009-08-27 01:26
Hope I made it in before the deadline, but I just got home from work. Love ya, Margie!
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# Barb Kroon 2009-08-27 01:44
Doug and Margie,

What an incredible resource.

If a writers' group was fortunate enough to be able to visit a crime lab, say a state crime lab, for their research, what topics and questions would you suggest they be sure to ask?
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# Jana Richards 2009-08-27 02:06
I hope I'm not too late! In my WIP my hero is in an explosion. At the moment I have him sustaining a severe concussion, and a very bad injury to his knee. Would injuries such as these be consistent with an explosion (an explosive is placed in an old stone fence)? Would this head injury render someone unconscious?

Thank you!
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# Janet Kerr 2009-08-27 02:29
Hi Margie & Doug,
This interview provides great information.
Thanks so much!
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# Autumn Jordon 2009-08-27 03:04
Fascinating subject and great blog. I'm definitely going to check these books out. Thanks, Margie and Doug.

Autumn Jordon
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# Margie 2009-08-27 03:37
Doug --

THANK YOU for answering questions and enlightening us regarding the fascinating world of forensics. Your how-to books are as informative and insightful as they are entertaining.

I look forward to reading the first thriller in your new series, STRESS FRACTURE, in April, 2010.

See you at ThrillerFest!

All smiles................Margie
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# Margie 2009-08-27 03:48
Hello Everyone!

THE TWO WINNERS:

1. BARRY won Forensics: A Guide for Writers

2. MARCIA JAMES won a Lecture Packet from Margie Lawson

CONGRATULATIONS BARRY and MARCIA!

Barry and Marcia -- Please contact me at margie@margiela wson.com to coordinate getting your prizes to you.

THANK YOU to everyone who posted on the blog -- as well as those who dropped by. Thanks for being here!

Best..................Margie
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# Margie 2009-08-27 03:57
Mark your calendar:

Wednesday, September 30th

How-to Author Interview Series Features:

Kelly Stone, author of:

-- TIME TO WRITE

-- THINKING WRITE: The Secret to Freeing Your Creative Mind

Thanks again for dropping by my blog!

All smiles..................Margie
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# Julie Robinson 2009-08-27 04:23
Just getting home. Thank you Margie and Doug. I really learned a lot today. Congrats to the winners. I've got next month's date marked on my calendar.
:zzz
Julie
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# Guest 2009-08-27 22:27
Wow, thanks Margie, for drawing my name as one of your winners! I'll contact you directly.

Thanks!
-- Marcia James ;-)
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# Janet Olson 2009-10-01 08:42
I just found your blog and website. I am an aspiring writer and will be reading and learning about you. Thanks for making so much good information available for struggling writers.
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# Diana Lesire Brandmeyer 2009-11-18 15:57
What an exciting time to be a writer! Having extraordinary writer's sharing their knowledge is a blessing. Thank you!
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