Bookcover: The Past Came Hunting

 

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Donnell Bell,

author of

The Past

Came Hunting

 

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Donnell Bell, two time Golden Heart finalist , prefers writing fiction to writing about stock portfolios or treating diaper rash. She has a background in court reporting, has worked with kids and engineers, and has volunteered for law enforcement and other organizations. Raised in New Mexico 's Land of Enchantment, Donnell has called the state of Colorado home for the past twenty-four years.

 

Deep Editing Q & A for Donnell Bell:

1.  What’s your writing process?

My process is to leave the computer entirely.  Go into my bedroom or onto my patio or anywhere separate from e-mail and the Internet and free my mind from all the chaos that is buckshot at us every second of the day.  I’m strange, in that I have to fool myself.  If I take a shortcut and type out my words, I want to edit them.

Because I take shorthand, I write my first draft in Gregg’s almost now-defunct scrawl.  It works great because my mind flows free and I write fast with these brief forms.  Moreover, because I have to transcribe to see what I’ve written, editing’s impossible.

After I transcribe my shorthand, I print it out in my notebook -- still judiciously avoiding the keyboard (Again, I cannot be trusted with e-mail and the Internet), and I print out draft two.  Here I may edit word choices and produce a messy, messy second draft.

Then, finally, when I have it all printed out, I type out my chapters.  That makes a total of three drafts.  From there, it’s pretty clean and ready for critique.

Pantser? Plotter?  Both:

I wrote my first four books by being a pantster.  Midway through, I realized I needed an outline. So I start out writing, just having fun, and then something clicks and I start plotting future scenes and the outcome.

Do you strive to complete a first draft in a certain time frame?

As an unpublished author, I’ve found that the Golden Heart contest is a great deadline marker.  Every manuscript I’ve written I’ve targeted to enter the Golden Heart.  That’s one manuscript a year, fellow writers, and that’s doable.  It also trains you to produce.

I’m working on my first series, and editing old manuscripts (one I plan to run through Margie’s Immersion Class), because it’s a good book!  I want it to be great book, however.  So my goal is to get faster.  (Heaven help me ;).

How long do you allow for deep editing a complete manuscript?

Three to four months.  I leave it alone for a couple of weeks and try to come back and look at it with fresh eyes.  If you get too close to the work, you lose objectivity in my opinion.  Don’t believe me?  Pull out an old manuscript you loved and your mother said was terrific.  I have one of those.  Mom loved it!  I’m red-faced every time I read it.

2.  What are some deep editing tools you learned from me, and how did they make a difference in your writing?

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Margie Lawson’s Empowering Characters' Emotions course.

True Story:  I’d never heard of Margie Lawson until I double-finaled in Colorado Romance Writers Heart of the Rockies contest.  But one of my judges took my entry, and, from there, she highlighted it with these pretty pastel colors.  Blue for dialogue, pink for emotional (tied to physical reaction), Green for description, Orange for tension, sexual, conflict, and Yellow for internalization.

Aside from the judge’s flattering comments, I saw her point about how the manuscript could be improved.  From that point, I had to find out who this Margie person was and see why she was so great at coloring.  I had her put on a full-day workshop for my local chapter, then attended another in Denver, and even drove the 70+ miles to two other workshops she presented.  I’m a listener, and many of you out there can take online workshops and grasp it just fine.  I, on the other hand, do better when I hang on every word.  Plus, with Margie there in person, I didn’t have to share -- as much ;).  The Empowerment workshop just made sense to me, and when I edit I make sure that I have power words at the end of my sentences.  Great technique.

3.  Donnell is good at showing incongruencies that add interest and power:

Then in an authoritative timbre at odds to his cowardly behavior and sloppy looks, he raised his voice. “Melanie Norris. You’ve been served.”

Margie Asked Donnell:  Do you consciously think about included contradictions, or are they gifts from your subconscious?

I think a little of both, and from years of reading authors who do it well.  I also try to visualize what my protagonist is seeing.  I could have just written, he shouted, but because I like to write tight, I incorporated her point of view into that sentence.

4.  Loved the way Donnell contrasted descriptions of two characters, showed the POV character’s visceral response, and used it as a plot point.

Joe stared at the man seated between the two detectives and his parched throat dried altogether. His last hope had been that Givens was an alias for Drake Maxwell. But this scrawny dude with his pock-marked face was too young to be Maxwell, and to be blunt, too damned ugly. The Drake Maxwell Joe remembered had been solidly built and decent looking, hence his ability to influence a young Melanie Daniels.

Margie Asked Donnell:  Is the piece above close to the first draft? If not, what changed?

I went back and looked at a previous draft.  I moved one sentence down; otherwise, it’s exact.

5.  This piece grabbed me:

“Chico, wake up.”

Through a haze and someone’s shaking, fifteen years of prison life slammed into Drake’s dreams. He grabbed his assailant and flung the bastard away from him and onto his back.

An instant later, as his eyes adjusted, he remembered where he was and saw that lying on the mattress beneath him was Maria. Ramirez’s younger sister stared up at him, startled and surprised. Drake, however, studied her as if she were a cross between an amoeba and a succulent meal. Then, remembering she paid the mortgage on the place and he was hiding out in her basement, he reluctantly rolled off of her. His mouth dryer than a piece of cotton, his head screaming from too many shots of tequila, he asked, “What are you doing down here?”

Her eyes flashed with something that looked like anger. Slowly, she lifted herself up on her elbows in the cold, unfinished basement. Behind her brother’s back they’d been giving each other come-do-me-looks for days. If she was afraid of him, she sure as hell didn’t show it.

A few lines later:

Something like electricity jolted through Drake, a conduit transmitting her “I’m-available” signals.

Loved that chapter opening!  Your writing grabs the reader and slams Drake’s experience into our minds.

Those examples share body language, setting, internalizations, pain, and a visceral hit—and those scene components are presented with a compelling cadence. Well done!

Applying my EDITS System:

“Chico, wake up.”

Through a haze and someone’s shaking, fifteen years of prison life slammed into Drake’s dreams. He grabbed his assailant and flung the bastard away from him and onto his back. An instant later, as his eyes adjusted, he remembered where he was and saw that lying on the mattress beneath him was Maria. Ramirez’s younger sister stared up at him, startled and surprised. Drake, however, studied her as if she were a cross between an amoeba and a succulent meal. Then, remembering she paid the mortgage on the place and he was hiding out in her basement, he reluctantly rolled off of her. His mouth dryer than a piece of cotton, his head screaming from too many shots of tequila, he asked, “What are you doing down here?”

Her eyes flashed with something that looked like anger. Slowly, she lifted herself up on her elbows in the cold, unfinished basement. Behind her brother’s back they’d been giving each other come-do-me-looks for days. If she was afraid of him, she sure as hell didn’t show it.

A few lines later:

Something like electricity jolted through Drake, a conduit transmitting her “I’m-available” signals.

Teaching Point for Margie Grads:

The first two PINKS are not emotionally triggered, but they carry some visceral power.  I made them sort-of dashed – to differentiate them from full-fledged Visceral Responses. I recommend PINK Dashes for PAIN experienced by POV characters.

The solid PINK is an emotionally triggered visceral response.

Margie Asked Donnell:

Do you have my EDITS System imprinted in your mind when you write and edit?

When a scene isn’t working, do you grab your highlighters and analyze the scene, see what colors dominate, see what’s missing?

Are there times when you check a scene for one or two EDITS colors? Do you highlight on paper, or just think the colors while editing?

It’s very difficult to edit on screen for me.  I print it out and back away from the keyboard.  By now I’m keenly aware of the EDITS system. There are just times when I know something’s missing.  I read my work out loud.  You mentioned cadence, and your ear will oftentimes catch what your eyes do not.  If something’s lacking, out come my trusted highlighters.

Thanks, Margie for your excellent teaching and for this opportunity!

Thank you! I'm proud to feature you on my Pubbed Margie Grad blog. Thank you for being here today!

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# Liz Selvig 2011-10-11 23:19
Hi Donnell!
So fun to see you here on Margie's blog. I'm mid-class with her right now and love surfing her cyber classroom and finding gems like this interview with you! Love your writing excerpts and I found your writing process truly amazing. I'm envious of anyone who still works by hand. That's all I used to do but was turned "to the dark side" (technology) by my first well-meaning crit partners. I hope your technique continues bringing you much success! Congratulations on the book.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-11 23:25
Good almost morning, Liz, thank you so much! Congratulations on your wonderful book, Song Bird, too!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 15:54
Hey Liz!

Ah -- Golden Heart to Golden Heart. :-))

Thanks for chiming in!
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# Christina Kitroeff 2011-10-12 01:11
Thanks Donnell for sharing all these tips with us!

The story sounds great:))

I love the contradictions in your descriptions - and I love the photo of you with your dog!
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 06:37
Thanks, Christina. Everyone has his process but I think the best writing advice I've ever had is write the book.

Coach is a sweetheart by the way. Got ran over by the Christmas light's guy, but he made it through and is happy and healthy now!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 15:57
Hello Christina --

I liked the way Donnell shared incongruent body language too. It's one of the points I teach in my ECE and Writing Body Language and Dialogue Cues courses. :-))

Thanks for stopping by.
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# Gloria Richard 2011-10-12 04:17
Hi, Donnell! Loved the opening, the way you slipped his backstory in as part of his present. I won't list all of the things I learned about this character in that short opener, but I am tres impressed with the techniques you used. Color me envious. Hmm. Margie has no color for that one. Green dots, perhaps?

You WOULD have to mention shorthand. Something I never learned. A shiny new bauble calling me. NO! Must. Not. Veer. Off. Course. To. Learn. It.

This year, GH drives my deadline. LOVED that you also use that as a goalpost. Happy writing! Can't wait until Margie's course in November. I'm going under Deep, Deep Edit Cover.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 06:39
Hi, Gloria, thank you for your nice thoughts. Placing yourself in that scene and trying to visualize what's going on in your character's head is as important as the writing itself.

About shorthand. I. Don't. Know. It sure comes in handy :-)

Also, I agree the GH is the perfect venue to prepare you for deadlines. Thanks for visiting with us today!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 16:00
Gloria --

You will work, work, work in my Deep, Deep, Deep Edit course in November. We'll all be under Deep Edit Cover!
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# Anita Clenney 2011-10-12 05:33
I love how you've showed the Edits using markers. It gives a great example of how to use the system.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 06:40
Margie really breaks this down for us, doesn't she, Anita!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 16:01
Anita --

Thanks! It will be fun to feature you here on Nov. 4th!
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# Elizabeth Essex 2011-10-12 06:33
I am completely jealous of the amount of time you've got to use your EDITS! I always wish I had longer.
But I have to agree completely on your last advice to read your work out loud. There's no other way to check for cadence! Looking forward to reading a Donnell Bell book in the future!
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 06:42
Thanks, Elizabeth! Yep, I'm moving up my deadlines now. I'm amazed when authors get out two or three books a year, but they do it, some amazingly good ones, too. The Edit form actually gives you a check list. Thanks for stopping by!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 16:03
Hey Immersion grad Liz!

Miss you big time!

Your writing is strong too. I can't wait to feature you here in November too!
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# Cindy Elliott 2011-10-12 07:29
Hi Donnell. Thanks for sharing with us!

It's easier for me to highlight on page instead of screen too. Not sure why. Maybe Margie can tell us the psychological reason.

Love your picture with your pup. Every writer needs a good puppy by her side. :-)

Best wishes on your future books!
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 08:14
Oh, Cindy, thanks for commenting and that's a great observation. I think words look different on the screen than on paper. And when I print it out I see things I don't on the monitor.

Margie, why is that?

Glad you like Coach, Cindy. He's the sweetest, friendliest dog I know!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 16:08
Cindy --

I recommend EDITS highlighting on paper.

Holding the highlighter and moving your hand across the page is Montessori-esque. It's a different experience than keyboarding.

It forces you to slow down and you'll catch more things that need to be tweaked or nixed or moved.

You know how deep I take the EDITS System for full scene analysis. It's post graduate level. ;-)

Thanks for chiming in!
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# Barbara White Daille 2011-10-12 08:20
Margie - excellent insights!

And Donnell, it's great to learn more about how you tick. ;)

Barbara
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 09:14
;-) Thanks, Barbara!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 16:10
Hey Barbara --

Great to see you here again! Glad you enjoyed the learning opps.

Thanks for stopping by the blog.
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# Edie Ramer 2011-10-12 08:26
Donnell, great writing examples. Margie, I love your breakdowns.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 09:15
Appreciate it, Edie! Margie did an awesome job. I felt like I was being graded :lol:
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-12 16:11
Edie --

Always fab to see you here!

Oh -- maybe I'll see you in Fab 30: Advanced Deep Editing, A Master Class in November!
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# Jerrie Alexander 2011-10-12 09:28
Donnell, I love the unique way you write. It obviously works! Good luch and many sales on the new book.

I have two of Margie's packets and was lucky enough to attend her full day workshop at the North Texas chapter conference. She changed not only the way I write but the way I edit.

The Past Came Hunting is winging it's way to my house via Amazon. I'm looking forward to reading it.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 09:39
Ah, thanks, Jerrie. I agree, and you make such a good point. I have my own style, without a doubt. As I said I'm a tight, tight writer, and sometimes I don't want long passages. I use them judiciously and try not to overwrite. Margie's classes gave me the tools. But I decide when to use them. Every sentence should not include all we learn from her courses. Thanks so much for buying TPCH. I hope you'll let me know your thoughts, good or bad! I'm still learning.

Margie? What say you about my thoughts on overwriting.
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# Ellis Vidler 2011-10-12 12:33
Donnell and Margie, that was quite interesting, the highlighted system. I use them to separate action from description sometimes but this is much more.
I'm a compulsive editor/rewriter too, but I don't think I can let go of the computer. I admire you for knowing yourself. And I'm really enjoying The Past Came Hunting.
Thanks for such a good interview.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 13:10
Ellis: Ah, but then you are disciplined. I'll bet when you say, I'm not going to check email, you don't check it. I'm my own best version of parental control. Okay.. Author control. On, gosh, you're reading it already. Now I'm nervous.

Ellis is very good at what she does. Check out her Ellis Vidler's Unpredictable Muse for great grammar lessons and more!
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# Susan M. Boyer 2011-10-12 12:37
Such an interesting writing process and editing system. I, too, have trouble resisting the lure of all things Internet while writing. My problem, though, is that I don't know shorthand, and I know I wouldn't be able to read anything I wrote out longhand. Your handwriting must be much better than mine. :)

My copy of TPCH arrrived at my house today--yay!! Can't wait to get started reading!!
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 13:12
Yay, Susan! Gosh, if feels strange people having the entire book at their disposal. I don't write it out, I print it out. My handwriting has gotten ghastly over the years. It's so funny to find all these notebooks with my stories printed out like a first grader! Thanks for stopping by and for reading!
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# Polly Iyer 2011-10-12 12:37
Great blog post, Donnell. Wonderful passage. Makes me want to go back over my WIP, which I'll do anyway at least ten times. I'm a firm believer in reading out loud. I don't see any other way to fine-tune dialogue. It never sounds the same in my head. Looking forward to getting your book. Still waiting.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 13:14
Polly, you're just like me (well smarter), but I know you work hard to pen everything just so. Yep, reading out loud is another amazing tool. Your ear picks up what looked so natural to you originally. Best thing a writer can do for his/her work in my opinion.
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# Victoria Bromley 2011-10-12 12:44
HI, Donnell,

Great blog. I am going to print it out to keep in my lessons notebook. It's a book I've kept for over a decade of great pieces I've read on the Internet that I want to keep referring to because I want to learn and absorb everything I can from that particular piece. You rock, lady!
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 13:15
Victoria, thank you! Wow, I'm truly honored. Margie has coached and taught many authors to greater levels. I found it was money well spent. Thanks for your very nice thoughts!
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# Sandra J Orchard 2011-10-12 13:46
Hi Donnell,

Enjoyed reading this. I wish I knew shorthand. Like you I often write by hand to get away from internet distractions and the compulsion to edit, but I edit like crazy when I finally type it in, which makes it a very slow process.
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-12 14:08
Hi, Sandra, yep, it's just like building a house, we lay the foundation, and editing is all the additions and accessories. The painstaking part of it! Thanks for commenting ;) Are you going to take another of Margie's Immersion Class?
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# Dale Mayer 2011-10-12 22:20
Hi Donnell,

I love Margie's courses too, but am no where as good at implementing her wisdom in my work as you are!

Great job!

Dale
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-13 08:15
Oh, Dale, I seriously doubt that, I've read your work. I think the trick here is to take Margie's tools, and make it complement your voice, not overshadow it. She's like a salesman at Sears. She'll give you some awesome techniques and you go into your workshop and get 'er done :lol:
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# L.A. Mitchell 2011-10-13 04:26
Hi Donnell :-)

I loved the opportunity to read excerpts of your work. I always read aloud, too, but I have to take it one step further. When the words have my author cadence, I can't hear it as I read it, so I read it into a recorder. Only then can I hear what I need to hear.

Best wishes on your continued success, Bond Sister :-)
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# Donnell Ann Bell 2011-10-13 08:17
:D L.A. wow, I'm in awe, a tape recorder. I guess I've never done that because I sound totally different than I think I do. I think I have this amazing singing voice :lol: and that darn tape recorder tells me differently. Kudos on doing that! Thanks for sharing!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-13 14:07
HELLO EVERYONE!

I enjoyed all your comments. Thanks for being here.

A BIG THANK YOU to smart Donnell for sharing her writing process, her talent, and her time.

Now for the big announcement:

THE WINNER IS: Christina Kitroeff!

CONGRATULATIONS Christina! You won THE PAST CAME HUNTING!

Christina -- Please email me: margie @ margielawson . com

Thanks again to all who posted comments, and to all 183 who visited the blog featuring Donnell. :-)

I'll continue to feature two to three Margie Grads each week. Tons of learning opps!

Plus: Remember to click to my home page and read about the courses offered by Lawson Writer's Academy.

In November, we're offering four dynamite courses on writing urban fantasy, deep editing, mastering Twitter, and how to self-publish.

Check them out!
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# Anna Taylor Sweingen 2011-10-19 10:43
Thanks so much for these. It's like being back in class again.

Anna T.S.
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