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Jagi Lamplighter!


Author of Prospero Regained,

Prospero In Hell, and Prospero Lost


Publisher's Weekly Review for PROSPERO REGAINED, Sept. 2011:

Lamplighter wraps up her Prospero's Daughter trilogy with a satisfyingly epic combination of mythology, theology, and Shakespeare. Prospero's children, estranged and scattered throughout the circles of Hell, must overcome centuries of distrust and neglect to rescue their father before he's executed. As the Family Prospero journey through the underworld, all of their age-old secrets, mysteries, resentments, and failings are finally brought to light.

Lamplighter keenly examines the complex, intertwined natures of redemption, forgiveness, and faith as represented by the intricate bonds of love and family, externalizing them through memorable representations of Heaven, Hell, and Faerie. This is intricate, intellectual fantasy at its best.


Photo: Jagi LamplighterL. Jagi Lamplighter’s most recent release, Prospero Regained, is the stunning conclusion of the critically acclaimed Prospero’s Daughter series. She is also one of the editors of the Bad Ass Fairies Anthology series. When not writing, she reverts to her secret identity as an at-home mother in Centreville, Virginia, where she lives with her husband, author John C. Wright, and their four children, Orville, Ping-Ping, Roland Wilbur, and Justinian Oberon.  

Website: http://www.ljagilamplighter.com;  Blog: http://arhyalon.livejournal.com


Deep Edit Q & A for Jagi Lamplighter

1.  What’s your writing process?

Pantser? Plotter?

I cannot help but notice that the term “Pantser” was invented by a plotter. While I have met writers who write “by the seat of their pants,” I don’t feel the term properly describes the process of writing as I experience it. I like the term organic better. What I like best is Sir Terry Pratchett’s description of writing. He says it is like walking through a mist filled valley. You can see the peaks above the mist, the main landmarks for where you are going, and you know that the valley is filled with interesting places and characters, but you do not discover the particulars until you actually begin walking through the valley.

That beingBook Cover: Prospero In Hell said, I should say that I love outlines. I have tremendous respect for anyone who can write from one. But my experience is that if I outline the story before I’ve written the first half, I just stop writing it—no matter how good my intentions. I think the reason is that part of the writing process for me is the wonder, the exploration, the new creative energy I put into the scene while I am working on it. If I plan too much ahead of time, my conscious mind stops listening to the muse and the writing process stops.

Writing to me seems to a great degree to be about faith and trust. I have to have faith that the story has its own internal integrity…that I will find it if I persevere. (To tell you the truth, I often sit and pray before I start…just asking that I might get my own opinions out of the way and find the story that is meant to be told. )

Do you strive to complete a first draft in a certain time frame?

I never have, due to the particulars of my previous situations. This may come up in the future, though, if my new series gets picked up and the publisher needs the manuscripts for later books on a schedule. I am a bit apprehensive, I must admit, because previous projects have taken quite varied amounts of time. I am hoping they will give me a year. We’ll see.BookCover: Prospero_Lost

How long do you allow to deep edit a complete manuscript?

Not enough. LOL. I think my latest book I just turned in could have done with more deep editing. The early part I worked on during your class is just better written than the later part. Since the book has not actually been picked up yet, I may devote some more time to working on it later this fall. It is not as if my editor is going to complain if the final version is better than what I first handed it.

In general, I try to deep edit as I go along, but I think it would be wise for me to schedule more time for it in the future. I was spoiled with my earlier projects. There was no deadline, so I got to work at them as long as I wanted. Ideally, I’d like a month or two at the end, just to go back and deep edit.

2.  Jagi – This visceral response is as fresh as it is powerful.

Anger rushed through me like a tidal wave beating against an unprotected shore.

I love that line! The content and cadence are perfect.

Margie Asked Jagi:  How do you come up with such fresh visceral responses? Do they evolve with multiple passes? Or do you dig deep and focus until you get each one right?

Margie, it’s hard! It takes really sitting down and banging my head against the desk for a while until ideas finally flow.  I find that the technique I learned in your class, taking lines out of the manuscript and really focusing on them separately until something fresh emerges is the best way…but it takes discipline, and I haven’t always been as disciplined as I would like. Sometimes, but more is needed!

One of my hopes, though, is that, if I keep trying, it will some day become second nature. I am already getting better about adding pink, for instance—though sometimes I have to remind myself to go back. There are other parts of writing, such as writing descriptions, that used to be very hard for me, which comes easier nowadays. It is my hope that this will become true for the things I have learned from your class as well!

Here’s a line I wrote during your class that has gotten a lot of positive comments. (It’s from my new novel, The Creation Campaign):

“No,” she shook her head so emphatically that her hair whipped about her like the fringe of a Spanish dancer’s shawl.

And here’s another one I did during your class, this one is from Prospero Regained, the final volume in my Prospero’s Daughter trilogy, though one could argue it’s a bit over the top.

Though he did not turn his head, Theo heard me. A noise halfway between a steaming locomotive and an angry bear erupted from his throat. It rose in pitch like the whistle of a tea kettle. Cornelius covered both his ears.

3. This POWER INTERNALIZATION is beautifully written.

I sighed, wishing that I, too, could experience that false utopia. I disliked the idea of volunteering to be fooled, but I was bone-weary and soul-tired. A few breaths of something that did not smell noxious—even if it was actually noxious—would have been a welcome relief.

Margie Asked Jagi:  Do you have to kill many of your beautifully written internalization darlings?

Not very often, but occasionally. I have written some really nice sentences that just had to go because they did not fit in the final version. I think that is one of the hardest things a writer does, cut something that is good for its own sake, but which does not help the scene go forward.

4.  In Empowering Characters’ Emotions, you learned that weaving together the EDITS colors (scene components) makes for a stronger scene. These two excerpts are stellar. You wove the setting with her emotions. Eloquent and powerful.

1. In the distance, a single point of light shone above the swamp waters. Unlike the steely gray bands amidst the lurid reds of the sky, it was pure and silvery, like starlight. A spark of hope stirred within me, as if I beheld some fragile and heavenly thing that gave wings to my heart.

2. The longer we walked, the heavier my heart became, until it seemed that my flagging spirits were physically dragging me deeper into the mire. I hated the putrid smell, the eerie green fires burning above the marshes, the gray light cast by the bands of steely luminescent clouds streaked across the ruddy skies, the acts of crudity taking place all around us, all of which seemed to involve violence rather than pleasure.

Margie Asked Jagi:  Is it a conscious decision to braid setting with her emotional set? Or is your subconscious that good to you?

Margie, my subconscious is coming along, but it has a long way to go. This is another technique I learned when taking your class…to try and let the way in which the character viewed the surroundings help express the character’s emotions to the reader. It is a technique I really love—though I fear I have a long way to go to master it.

5.  What are some deep editing tools you learned from me, and how did they make a difference in your writing?

Oh! There is so much! The main four that stick with me are:

Visceral Writing: I try to put at least a little pink in every scene. I am still learning how to do it without overdoing it, but it is such an effective tool!

Ping-Pong Dialogue: I love this one. I realized recently that I put some in the early chapters of my most recent book and then forgot about it. But I’ve already added just a little on the first two pages of Volume Two—which I started yesterday!

Adding Freshness: This one is more of a struggle for me. Both because it is hard—anything that requires thinking is hard--and because I find, when writing fantasy, that there are times when familiar wording lends a richness, so I have to balance a sense of familiarity with something new. But I’ve noticed that when Beta Readers note a line they like for some reason other than humor, it is often a line to which I deliberately applied freshness.

Repeating A Word or Phrase Three Times: I don’t recall the name of that one, but I love it! I seldom find a place for it, but I got to use it just yesterday. One of the things on my future wish list is to take your class where you go over these special techniques in detail.

Ah -- You're referring to DEEP EDITING: The EDITS System, Rhetorical Devices, and More. The next time I teach Deep Editing is March.

I teach each of my Big Three writing craft courses (ECE, Deep Editing, and Writing Body Language) once a year. If you'd rather not wait until March to apply what you'll learn in the lectures, the Lecture Packets for all my courses are available through Paypal from my web site.

Jagi -- Thank you for being my blog guest today. I enjoyed interacting with you in class, and in the Deep Edit Q & A. I hope I get to connect in person some day.

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L. Jagi Lamplighter’most recent release, Prospero Regained, is the stunning conclusion of the critically acclaimed Prospero’s Daughter series. She is also one of the editors of the Bad Ass Fairies Anthology series. When not writing, she reverts to her secret identity as an at-home mother in Centreville, Virginia, where she lives with her husband, author John C. Wright, and their four children, Orville, Ping-Ping, Roland Wilbur, and Justinian Oberon.

 

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# kimberle swaak 2011-10-19 04:56
Hi, Jagi and Margie! I always love reading these columns, and hearing how other writers work. Thanks for sharing.
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-19 10:47
Hey Kimberle --

It is cool to read all the different ways writers work.

I hope you're making fabulous progress on your WIP. Can't wait for you to query -- and get THE CALL!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 11:04
Hey, look at that! I didn't realize we could comment directly. ;-)

Hi, Kimberle...best of luck!
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# Gloria Richard 2011-10-19 05:24
Hi, Jagi and Margie!

First, I'm waving my hand furiously, Jagi. I KNOW, I KNOW! The term for the repetition of a phrase can be anaphora (beginning of sentence), epistrophe (end of sentence), or simploce (same beginning/ending three times).
I had such FUN with my new rhetorical toys, I could tell (on rewrite) which I learned at what point in my ms. How? Because I overused them, of course. NOTE: I didn't refer to my handy-dandy RHETt DEVLIShT spreadsheet for the answers, Margie. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jagi, you've given me a new toy: weaving setting into character emotions. WOW! Yours were beautifully written and powerful. Inner editor (Gracie) screams from her shoebox in the closet. "Let me OUT. We have to check to see if we can use that."

Great post. WONDERFUL excerpts and powerful writing. KUDOS!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-19 10:51
Gloria -

You are such a STAR STUDENT.

You know the rhetorical devices!

Have fun trying out your new editing toy. :-)
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 11:05
Thanks, Gloria! I'm so glad that you've gained some useful insights...it is wonderful to think that someone else might benefit by the things we figure out!
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# Elizabeth Essex 2011-10-19 06:59
Great post Margie & Jagi:

I really liked the idea of braiding the character's emotions and the setting. It's given me lots of ideas as I move through some revisions today.

And Jagi - it DOES get easier. You will find the more you use the edits system, the more you'll come to what you need on the first draft (instead of like me, the LAST!)
Cheers, and best of luck with this series. :)
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-19 11:06
Hey Liz --

Glad you're close to finishing your revisions!

Your writing is so strong. I love reading your books. Your historicals are loaded with masterful examples for my deep editing lectures. Fresh. Compelling. Powerful.

Write faster!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 11:06
Thanks for the words of encouragement Elizabeth. Sometimes, it is really daunting...but your comments really cheered me. I figure if it got easier for you, there's no reason not to hope it will be the same for me...I just have to put in that initial effort! ;-)
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# L.A. Mitchell 2011-10-19 07:12
Nice to "meet" you, Jagi. Hey there, Margie ;-)

Jagi, what struck me about your writing was its richness. I almost found myself reading it aloud in a British accent. Weird, I know, but I was drawn in by it. The tone seems to match the subject perfectly. I wish you much success with your new project.

--Laura

Oh, and Gloria--sit down you brown-noser :P I'll bet if we put you in a quiz show toe-to-toe (cliche) against Margie, you'd buzz in with these rhetorical names faster. Just sayin'.
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 11:07
Laura,

You could not have delighted me more! I'd love to have my stuff sound like it was to be spoken with a British accent. ;-)
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-19 11:10
Laura --

I agree! Rich tone and voice -- fit Jagi's work well.

Hey -- I'm a fast buzzer too!

GRINS!
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# Tracy 2011-10-19 09:50
Jagi and Margie --

Great examples. I'm impressed!

Looks like you learned a lot in Margie's classes. I think I need to take them too.

Congratulations on your trilogy. I'd like to be published by Tor!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 11:08
Keep trying, Tracy! It took me almost 20 years...from starting my manuscript to the series coming out. So, don't give up! Maybe some day we'll be at Tor together!
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-19 11:12
Tracy --

Glad the examples impressed you. Me too!

If you have any questions about my courses or Lecture Packets, please ask.

margie @ margielawson . com

Thank you!
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# Theresa 2011-10-19 10:01
Jagi -- Wow!

Love the way you braided emotion with setting. Beautifully written.

Margie -- I'll confess. I've heard writers rave about your online classes for years. And I mean RAVE.

I've taken lots of classes on writing craft. Honestly, I thought I knew everything you'd teach. I ignored their raves.

BUT, this is the first time I've SEEN what you can teach me.

I read this blog, then clicked and READ EVERY BLOG from your graduates. WOW!

You're teaching writers things that I've never heard of before. I want to learn it all!

I'm ordering your BIG THREE lecture packages now.

THANK YOU! You'll see me on your blog again!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 11:09
Boy, that makes me feel good. Thanks for letting us know!

;-)
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# Margie Margie 2011-10-19 11:19
Theresa --

Cool confession!

Thanks for sharing.

You already ordered my BIG THREE lecture packets. Paypal notified me. You're fast!

Please read them in this order:

1. Empowering Characters' Emotions
2. Deep Editing: The EDITS System, Rhetorical Devices, and More
3. Writing Body Language and Dialogue Cues Like a Psychologist

Thank you!

Enjoy all the lectures!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 10:30
Hey guys,

Thanks so much! I, too, didn't really appreciate how much I'd learned from Margie until she asked me these questions. I use stuff she taught me practically every day! (That's not to say that I can't use more.)

Now I want to take that class in March! Maybe I'll see some of you there! ;-)

Thanks again, Margie. And thanks for the great comments, guys. Particularly, Gloria...for reminding me what the technique was called!
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# Jennifer 2011-10-19 13:29
Hey Margie and Jagi

Loved the examples of setting and emotion.

Jagi -- You wrote them just like Margie teaches us. She's always saying to make your writing a smooth and empowered read.

Those two examples exemplify what Margie teaches. Kudos to you!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 16:06
Thanks, Jennifer!
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# Nikki 2011-10-19 13:31
Jagi --

Good job.

Too good. I'm hooked. Now I have to buy your book. :lol:
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 16:06
Oh! I hope you enjoy it! (Though I should warn you, the quotes are from volume 3. ;-)
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# Lee 2011-10-19 13:39
Hello Jagi --

Read the blog, checked your web site. Looks good. I'll start with the first in your trilogy.

I'm a Margie Grad too. I've taken all her classes twice and plan to take them again. I have several degrees, and I'm smart enough to know I can keep learning from her.

Cheers! Hope we both get on the NYT list.
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 16:07
Indeed! Wouldn't that be wonderful. I hope all Margie's students get there...a testiment to her great teaching. ;-)
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# Barbara Rae Robinson 2011-10-19 14:59
Beautiful writing, Jagi! Love the way you braid the emotion with the setting. Now I have to figure out if I can do that in my book.

And you do need to go to Margie's house in Colorado for her Immersion Master Class. Gloria and I were there at the same time. What fun it was! We learned a lot and are still learning of course. Margie keeps adding new toys to play with. This week it's yammering yellow! How to get rid of it.

Barb
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 16:08
It's just a matter of working at it, Barbara. I think the key is remembering to try. ;-)
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# Merry Muhsman 2011-10-19 15:26
Hi Jagi! I remember the banging the head against the wall during Margie's class and wearing a path in the carpet trying to find the right words!

The first book was fun. I have the second one to read next. It's a safe bet to start it now that the third one is out. I wouldn't want to have to wait a whole year to read the conclusion.

Best of look and hopes for continued success!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-19 16:09
Hey, Merry!!

Ginger and I want to take the Deep Editing class in March...any chance you'd join us?

And thanks for reading my book. (And I've got to get to your next Chapter!)
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# Merry Muhsman 2011-10-19 19:10
Hi Jagi,

Gosh, that's tempting. I really enjoyed taking classes with a fellow fantasy writer. I did take Margie's Deep Edits class once. However, there is so much to grasp, I might not mind taking it again.

I truly enjoyed reading the book. I learned a lot from reading your work. And thank you for reading mine. You've been a fantastic influence.
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# Haley Whitehall 2011-10-19 16:41
Hi Jagi,
Nice to meet you.

I also remember the frustration of searching for the right words during Margie's class. I do not think I could ever feel like I had spent enough time with the deep editing process. However, you have to let the book go sometime, right?

Glad to know that it is possible to slowly sink all this info into your subconscious. I loved the examples where you weaved emotion with setting. I could read them over and over and over again :)
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-20 03:32
>However, you have to let the book go sometime, right?

Funny, you say that. When I gave Margie one of the quotes above, I wished I could have changed two words to make it scan just that little tiny bit better.

I write a writing-related blog on Wednesdays. One of these weeks, I'm going to do a humorous piece on Writer's Regret and how to deal with the fact that you cannot continue rewrite once the book is actually published. LOL
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# Ginger Kenney 2011-10-19 18:25
Great post! Don't enter me in the drawing--I already have the book. Fifty pages in, and I can't put it down. I just wanted folks to know...

Looking forward to joining you in Deep Editing in March.
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-20 03:33
Thanks, Ginger! And thanks for coming by here!
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# Maureen Marty 2011-10-19 19:52
Hi Jagi and Margie,

I love this column and, Jagi - I love your writing! It's so poetic. I going to have to read your books!

Margie - you're an incredible teacher. Thank you.

Maureen
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-20 03:34
Thanks, Maureen! I hope you enjoy it. -- and that I get to read your stuff someday! (Since you are here, I assume you're a fellow writer!)
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# Anita Clenney 2011-10-20 11:55
Hi Jagi and Margie. Writing fresh isn't easy. I've done some headbanging myself, but when a great line emerges from that frustration, it's so worth it!
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-20 16:39
Your headbanging was definitely worth it, Anita...which reminds me, I should lend your book to my friends who lends me romances!
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# Misty Dietz 2011-10-20 14:29
Hi Jagi! Hii Margie! I'm a new Margie disciple...I haven't been fortunate enough to attend one of Margie's workshops yet, but I'm amazed at what I've learned from her lecture packets!

Jagi, your writing is beautiful, and it's fun to see Margie's techniques in action.
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# L. Jagi Lamplighter 2011-10-20 16:40
Wonderful! I started with the lecture packets, too.
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